1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Hidden power, secrets, cover-ups, corruption. 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:14,000 You think you know the whole story? 3 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,000 Think again. 4 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:23,000 I've been governor, a Navy SEAL, a fighter. 5 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,000 I've heard things that'll blow your mind, 6 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:31,000 and now I think it's time you get the whole story. 7 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:37,000 Now, the top secret government project that can destroy the world. 8 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:42,000 One of the most dangerous projects the United States government has ever attempted. 9 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:43,000 There it is. 10 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,000 When aimed at the sky, it can change the weather. 11 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:51,000 With a billion watts, you easily move a cloud wherever you want to move it using harp. 12 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:56,000 When aimed at the ground, it can set off earthquakes and tsunamis. 13 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:01,000 My father's hope was that this type of technology would be doing more good and not doing any harm. 14 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,000 And they're saying now we have a weapon. 15 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:09,000 When it's pointed at you, it can literally blow your mind. 16 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:13,000 This is the death ray. 17 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:17,000 Jesse Ventura and his team head north to Alaska. 18 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,000 Take a wild ride to the Arctic Tundra. 19 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,000 We're out here in the wilder lands of Alaska. 20 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,000 And confront the ultimate conspiracy weapon. 21 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,000 This is more than possible. 22 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,000 Let's f**k it. 23 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:33,000 Harp, the real life doomsday machine. 24 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,000 Hold on a second guys, I got a problem. 25 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,000 We have to get out of there, Perrin. 26 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:45,000 I'm Jesse Ventura, and this is conspiracy theory. 27 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:56,000 Jesse Ventura is at the gates to what could be the most dangerous weapon the world has ever seen. 28 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,000 And they won't let him in. 29 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:04,000 So you're telling me if I got rid of the cameras, you'd take me inside? 30 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,000 I'm saying there's no chance that would happen. 31 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:11,000 Weeks of investigation have led the governor and his team to remote Alaska. 32 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:17,000 To this place where the US military is blasting the skies with millions of watts of energy. 33 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,000 A place with the innocent name of Harp. 34 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,000 Back up a little bit, can we do it? 35 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,000 When I get denied something, I get angry. 36 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:32,000 It was a confrontation I didn't expect as a former governor. 37 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:37,000 And it all began when I got a call from a guy named Jerry Smith. 38 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:43,000 He told me the government was about to fire up some kind of futuristic weapon. 39 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:47,000 We met at an out of the way tavern in St. Paul. 40 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:53,000 He looked like an insurance agent, but there was nothing mild-mannered about what he had to say. 41 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,000 Jerry Smith is an author. 42 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:02,000 He writes about the military's desire to harness the weather and use it as a weapon of mass destruction. 43 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:07,000 What I have for you is one of the most dangerous projects the US government has ever attempted. 44 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:13,000 That's going on live in our atmosphere and the general public are still blissfully unaware of it. 45 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:18,000 Harp. High-frequency, active or rural research program. 46 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:22,000 It is a field of antennas on the ground in southeastern Alaska, 47 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,000 sold together as the work is one giant antenna. 48 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,000 It's 360 antennas. 49 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:32,000 Each can generate 10,000 watts. 50 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:36,000 3.6 million watts, collectively. 51 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:41,000 The largest legal AM radio station in the US is only 50,000 watts. 52 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,000 But they're not broadcasting out. 53 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,000 They're not broadcasting out. 54 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,000 They're not broadcasting out. 55 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:53,000 When Harp is fired up, all those antennas shoot powerful radio waves into the ionosphere, 56 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,000 the uppermost part of the atmosphere. 57 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,000 They literally heat it. 58 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:04,000 They create irregularities that allow the ionosphere to bounce powerful radio signals back to Earth. 59 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,000 Officially, it's only in the research stage. 60 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,000 To what purpose do they say they're doing that for? 61 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,000 So they can communicate with deeply submerged submarines. 62 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:19,000 And they could use this to locate, monitor, enemy underground bases 63 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,000 with the manufacturer and launch of weapons and mass destruction. 64 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:26,000 Big oil companies develop the Harp technology. 65 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,000 But when the US government is trying to make a new technology, 66 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,000 it's not going to be able to do that. 67 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:36,000 Big oil companies develop the Harp technology. 68 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:42,000 But when the US government realized its wider potential, it bought up all the plans. 69 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:48,000 By the time work began in 1993, Harp was in the hands of the military. 70 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:53,000 Jerry Smith says those hands turned the tool into a weapon. 71 00:04:55,000 --> 00:05:01,000 The Harp array seems to be based on a set of patents for a ground-based Star Wars weapon system. 72 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,000 Now it may be good to have Ronald Reagan's shield. 73 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:08,000 Something that could destroy incoming missiles and things of that nature if they're fired at us. 74 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:15,000 Exactly. This same set of patents also describes how it could be used to manipulate the weather over North America. 75 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,000 Missile defense and weather control. 76 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:23,000 Jerry Smith says that's only the tip of the iceberg in Alaska, 77 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:30,000 because the extra low-frequency waves that Harp generates can also drill much deeper than the ocean. 78 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,000 Deep into your brain. 79 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:38,000 That ELF that allows them to see deep in the Earth and communicate with deeply submerged submarines 80 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:42,000 is at the same frequency that the human brain works at. 81 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:49,000 Brain waves really are, in part, radio waves. The brain can be influenced by external signals. 82 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:58,000 Mind control? That seems a little far out, but weather manipulation is all too plausible. 83 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:02,000 Jesse drives off to begin the investigation, 84 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:10,000 and he can't shake off thoughts of recent events like the Indonesian tsunami and Hurricane Katrina. 85 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:16,000 Back at his war-roam, the governor meets with his elite team of investigators 86 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:21,000 researchers and operatives, all of them itching to get on the case. 87 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:26,000 All right, people, I want no excuses. What have you come up with? 88 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:31,000 Well, we've got a physicist that says that Harp can do everything that Jerry Smith told you it can do. 89 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,000 And how exactly is he going to do that? Start a hurricane? 90 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:39,000 Yeah, quite literally. He has a device that shows that you can actually move clouds, 91 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,000 and he's going to do this experiment for me. 92 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,000 That's interesting. Where do we go from here, people? 93 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:48,000 This photo was actually taken just before the big tsunami hit the coast of Indonesia. 94 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,000 And what we're seeing is the aurora borealis or the northern lights. 95 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:56,000 They occur any time there's any sort of electromagnetic occurrence in the ionosphere, 96 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:00,000 and they say that when they turn Harp on, the colors get really wild up there. 97 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:05,000 And the other thing that's interesting before the tsunami was that there were no pre-tremors, 98 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,000 or any warning, it just happened. 99 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,000 How often are the northern lights spotted in Indonesia? 100 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,000 Why would we want to cause a tsunami and kill thousands of Indonesian people? 101 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:18,000 Alex, maybe they didn't want to. Maybe they were just experimenting with the thing. 102 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,000 They put it up too high, and this was the end result. 103 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,000 What do you think they're going to do after it happens? 104 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:27,000 Then come out and say, oops, we made a mistake and fess up to it? 105 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,000 I mean, think about it. They're testing whole new technology, right? 106 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,000 So here they're testing this thing? 107 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,000 Every time they come up with something new, they got to check it out. 108 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,000 And if there's collateral damage from it, that's what they look at. 109 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:40,000 Oh, well, it works. So there was a little collateral damage in it. 110 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,000 At least now we know it works. 111 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:53,000 Coming up, the investigation moves to Alaska, 112 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:57,000 and the conspiracy theory is put to the test. 113 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,000 Why is there so much military investment? 114 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:05,000 Well, basically, the military was involved because there was a... 115 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,000 Let me back up. 116 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:13,000 Then a simple demonstration shows how harp can control and change the weather. 117 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,000 We're using about 100 watts in the civil cloud chamber. 118 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,000 Harp uses a billion watts. 119 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,000 And later, a tense confrontation. 120 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:27,000 Jesse Ventura at the gates to what could be the deadliest weapon in the world. 121 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,000 Come on, man. I'm a Navy SEAL. 122 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:33,000 The military don't do things unless it has a military purpose 123 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:37,000 and a military purpose is destruction and wage and war. 124 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:52,000 Jesse Ventura has been tipped that the U.S. military's IONUSFIR research project in Alaska 125 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,000 is not what it seems. 126 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:58,000 Officially, the giant complex of antennas outside the village of Gakona 127 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,000 is conducting communication studies. 128 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:06,000 But a growing conspiracy theory says harp is actually a weapon 129 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:12,000 with the ability to shoot down aircraft, manipulate nature, and control your mind. 130 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,000 The investigation is underway. 131 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:31,000 Alex Piper is touched down in Fairbanks, Alaska. 132 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:35,000 He's here to meet with one of the heads of harp research. 133 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:42,000 Meanwhile, the governor's advisor, Michael Braverman, is at Stanford University 134 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,000 with two harp researchers. 135 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:50,000 Doctors Morris Cohen and Mark Galkowski have done extensive experimentation at harp. 136 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:54,000 The harp facility is a unique facility for basic research. 137 00:09:54,000 --> 00:10:00,000 It's really about understanding the portion of the atmosphere that right now we know very little about. 138 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,000 We really hope to understand more about this upper atmospheric region 139 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:07,000 and understand some of the basic physical processes that go on there. 140 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,000 Alex is not finding the same cooperation in Fairbanks. 141 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,000 Hey, Governor, it's Alex. 142 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,000 Yeah, so I spoke to the professor. 143 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,000 He claims it's strictly there for experiments, research purposes only, 144 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,000 that it can't change the weather, it's not a weapon. 145 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,000 The problem is, as soon as he saw where I was going with my questions, 146 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,000 he refused to be on camera. 147 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,000 Yeah, make of it what you will. 148 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:38,000 As Alex awaits instructions in Alaska, a visitor arrives at the team's office. 149 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:44,000 Broke Sagno is a scientist, engineer, and doctor of physics. 150 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,000 He spent years studying arctic weather patterns. 151 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:55,000 He's about to demonstrate the awesome power of this so-called research project. 152 00:10:55,000 --> 00:11:01,000 He'll show how harp's ELF radio waves can actually push around rain clouds in the sky. 153 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:05,000 And in the process, change the weather. 154 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,000 Well, this is a basic cloud chamber. 155 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:12,000 I'm going to make a cloud inside of it, stabilize it, make sure it's all nice and still, 156 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,000 and then we're going to move it using harp impulses. 157 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:19,000 Weather manipulation, the ability to control the weather in specific areas. 158 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,000 Is it possible? 159 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,000 It is not even remotely possible. 160 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,000 The harp researchers may not be as candid as they appear. 161 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,000 They deny harp can control the weather. 162 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:35,000 But Dr. Agnew shows investigator Jun Sarpong just how easy the process can be. 163 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:40,000 When I turn the pulses on, this cloud should move from bottom to top. 164 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:41,000 Are you ready? 165 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:42,000 Yeah. 166 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:49,000 Oh, yeah, you can really see. 167 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,000 It's almost like there's a wind inside the chamber. 168 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:56,000 So this was the sky you would see rapid movement in the sky. 169 00:11:56,000 --> 00:12:01,000 Right, and this is just a fraction of the power that's used in harp. 170 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,000 We're using about 100 watts in this little cloud chamber. 171 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,000 Harp uses a billion watts. 172 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:11,000 So we pushed a couple of cubic feet of cloud vapor in a few seconds. 173 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:16,000 With a billion watts, you could easily move a cloud wherever you wanted to move it using harp. 174 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,000 Could harp be used as an electronic weapon? 175 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,000 Certainly not. 176 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,000 Is there an example where harp has actually been used in warfare? 177 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,000 Yes. 178 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:42,000 In the first Iraq war, there's evidence that harp was used to irradiate the battlefield 179 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,000 prior to the invasion from Kuwait. 180 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:48,000 When the tanks rolled into the area, the troops piled out of the bunkers, 181 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:52,000 not willing to give a fight, they gave up in mass. 182 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:53,000 These were the Iraqi troops. 183 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,000 And what exactly did harp do to them? 184 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,000 It can prevent you from sleeping. 185 00:12:58,000 --> 00:12:59,000 It creates anxiety. 186 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:03,000 It can even upset your bowels, how they work. 187 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:10,000 And if it's played just right, harp can be tuned to a point where it makes the recipients so paranoid 188 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,000 they begin to have visions like nightmares. 189 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,000 So harp is purely a research facility? 190 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:17,000 Yes. 191 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,000 So then what is the military doing there? 192 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,000 Why is there so much military investment? 193 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:29,000 Well, as basically the military was involved because there was a... 194 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:34,000 Let me back up and say the location of harp was actually picked because that property was actually 195 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,000 belonged to the U.S. Air Force, I believe. 196 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:40,000 And so that site was actually suitable, a suitable location for that. 197 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:45,000 And I believe that's one of the reasons that the military is involved in this harp program. 198 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:49,000 I'm not allowed to know, but it is what it is. 199 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:56,000 It's clear the researchers want to avoid discussing the military uses of harp. 200 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,000 Their hesitations cause the team to wonder. 201 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,000 So what are the real dangers of harp? 202 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:10,000 Picture a ground wire, like a long extension cord being stretched from the earth up to the ionosphere, 203 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,000 creating an ion path. 204 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:18,000 If the power that's in the ionosphere discharged back down to the ground, 205 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:22,000 it would be a lightning bolt of devastating proportions. 206 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,000 What would that mean exactly? 207 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:31,000 Picture 50 Mount St. Helen's volcanoes going off every second for a minute. 208 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,000 So the effects could be catastrophic? 209 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:39,000 Absolutely. 210 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:45,000 So in your expert opinion, do you think that this is a machine that actually should be stopped 211 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,000 because it's just too dangerous? 212 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,000 I think the machine should be shut off. It's too risky to use. 213 00:14:56,000 --> 00:15:02,000 Well, people, I talked to Alex and he was up in Alaskan, talked to this person up there, 214 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,000 and apparently it's a train to nowhere. He says it's not a big story. 215 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:10,000 No way, Governor. Agnew was convinced that there's more to this. We have to investigate further. 216 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,000 Then who else do we go see? We've got to find someone else then. 217 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:18,000 Well, I've got someone else for us to speak to. His name's Nick Begidge. He's also up in Alaska. 218 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:23,000 Now, he's written a lot about harp, and he's probably one of the most informed people out there. 219 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:24,000 There's only one problem. 220 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,000 And that is? 221 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:26,000 He'll only speak to you. 222 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,000 Why just me? 223 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,000 His brother's a senator and he trusts you. 224 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,000 His brother's a U.S. senator? 225 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:33,000 Yeah. 226 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:38,000 Might get a hold of Alex and tell him we're on our way. I guess we're coming to Alaska. 227 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:45,000 Coming up, Jesse Ventura approaches the super weapon from the sky. 228 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,000 There it is. 229 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,000 Then an explosive confrontation. 230 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:57,000 When I did deny something, I do the opposite of getting intimidated. I get angry. 231 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:03,000 And later, Jesse goes all in and gets a hard hit of harped mind-bending power. 232 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:21,000 Jesse Ventura is in Alaska to investigate the mysterious military facility known as harp. 233 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:28,000 The governor's conspiracy team has found evidence that harp's complex of massive transmitters 234 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:34,000 is a trigger for a super weapon that heats up the ionosphere, tampering with nature. 235 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:39,000 What experts call a formula for global terrorism. 236 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:44,000 We've heard from enough experts. Now it's time to see for ourselves. 237 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:52,000 Jesse Ventura lifts off from Anchorage and points the way toward a remote region of southeastern Alaska. 238 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,000 They're headed to harp. 239 00:16:55,000 --> 00:17:03,000 They fly across miles of untouched wilderness, deeper and deeper, into the middle of nowhere. 240 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:10,000 And then, just over the ridge, it comes into view. 241 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:13,000 There it is. 242 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:17,000 Whoa! 243 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:20,000 There it is. 244 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,000 There it is. 245 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,000 There it is. 246 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,000 There it is. 247 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:29,000 There it is. 248 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:30,000 There it is. 249 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:32,000 Wow! 250 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,000 I hear it's live today. 251 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:45,000 You mean this thing is on right now? 252 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,000 Yeah, it's on right now and they're gonna shut it off the other way. 253 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,000 We'll get within a mile. 254 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,000 I hope they shut it off. 255 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:54,000 Yeah, it's just a little more on. 256 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,000 What would that happen? 257 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,000 I have no idea. 258 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,000 I don't know about you, Governor, but I don't want to find out. 259 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:08,000 180 towers, spread out over 35 acres. 260 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,000 This is harp. 261 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,000 You think there's anything shady going on down there? 262 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:15,000 It could be. 263 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:19,000 The one thing is, is that even the people who work here don't really know a lot about it. 264 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,000 The right hand doesn't seem to know what the left hand is doing. 265 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,000 Well, that's very common in government compartmentalization. 266 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:27,000 Yeah. 267 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:31,000 These are the antennas that blast a beam 12 miles wide, 268 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,000 that spreads across the ionosphere, heats it up, 269 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:38,000 and turns the atmospheric layer into the biggest antenna of all. 270 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,000 Governor, doesn't look that scary from up here. 271 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,000 Yeah, a lot of things stay not much good, 272 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:48,000 but you can't see what it does anyway that gives off radius frequencies. 273 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,000 You know, how do you see that? 274 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:51,000 It'd be very scary. 275 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,000 I think we better ask the senior stay up close. 276 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,000 Yeah, I think we should. 277 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:00,000 The governor orders the chopper down at Harp's front door. 278 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:15,000 Now you did formally call them to see if we could get a tour of this place. 279 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,000 Absolutely. 280 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:17,000 And what was the result? 281 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,000 They turned us down. 282 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,000 We tried three different times. 283 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:24,000 Three times you called here to see if we could get a tour of this place and they turned us flat. 284 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:29,000 We called this facility, we called the Air Force directly, every time, no. 285 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,000 Stonewall. 286 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,000 They're now at the gates of Harp. 287 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,000 Well, let's see if there's another way we can get in here. 288 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,000 Looks like a call box right here. 289 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,000 They don't want to have to talk to you. 290 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:49,000 They're up there. 291 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:50,000 They know we're here. 292 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,000 It's simply they're not going to respond. 293 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:53,000 Look it. 294 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:54,000 Now it don't even buzz. 295 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,000 They've shut it down. 296 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,000 Jesse Ventura is happy to wait them out. 297 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,000 Finally, the ones inside give in. 298 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:17,000 The Harp representative is dressed like a civilian. 299 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,000 He introduces himself as a manager. 300 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,000 He says he does not want his face shown on camera. 301 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,000 And he delivers the message. 302 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,000 Jesse Ventura is not welcome at Harp. 303 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:33,000 If you as an individual, we're sitting down at the Gakona Lodge. 304 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,000 And we're going to be sitting down at the Gakona Lodge. 305 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,000 And we're going to be sitting down at the Gakona Lodge. 306 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:43,000 And we're going to be sitting down at the Gakona Lodge having a beer. 307 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:47,000 And he said, hey, you know, I'm in around fishing or whatever. 308 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,000 And I just want to catch some salmon. 309 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,000 And you were asking questions about Harp. 310 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:56,000 There would be no problem with me saying, Jesse, let's go for a tour of the facility. 311 00:20:56,000 --> 00:21:01,000 However, being associated with the media, that's a different set of rules. 312 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:05,000 So you're telling me if I got rid of the cameras, you'd take me inside? 313 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:08,000 I'm saying there's no chance that would happen. 314 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:15,000 The man suggests the governor come back on the official visiting day. 315 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,000 We went through the proper chance. 316 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,000 We went to the... 317 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,000 But they told you what? 318 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,000 To come back during an open house. 319 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,000 Which is once every two years. 320 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,000 Which is once every two years. 321 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,000 It's hard being a swore of no. 322 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,000 Two years. 323 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,000 Those are close to fighting words. 324 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,000 Do you really need to go through the Air Force? 325 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,000 Well, we did. 326 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:37,000 We got stonewalled. 327 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,000 And this is strictly a research facility. 328 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:44,000 Clearly, there's something going on here that they don't want people to know about. 329 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,000 There's a lot of cool science that we do with this facility. 330 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:48,000 Come on, man. I'm a Navy SEAL. 331 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:52,000 The military don't do things unless it has a military purpose 332 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:56,000 and a military purpose is destruction and wage war. 333 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,000 It's a stalemate. 334 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,000 Or is it? 335 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:03,000 Back up a little bit from the days when we did the country of the infirmity. 336 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,000 When I get denied something, I do the opposite of getting intimidated. 337 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,000 I get angry. 338 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,000 Jesse is about to walk right on through. 339 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,000 When suddenly... 340 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,000 Hold on a second, guys. I got a problem here. 341 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,000 They're after their appearance. 342 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,000 The camera equipment begins to go haywire. 343 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,000 Something is interfering with the audio and video. 344 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,000 This is more than unclassified. That's f***ing... 345 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,000 Coming up... 346 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:37,000 Jesse finds new mysteries and new conspiracy theories from Harp's neighbors. 347 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,000 He said, we fired that damn thing up up there and we tried it, guys. 348 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:46,000 Then he finds out that Harp mind control is not as far fetched as it seems. 349 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,000 Crank it up. I want to try it. 350 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:06,000 Jesse Ventura and his team made it as far as the front gates of the Harp complex in the Alaskan wilderness. 351 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:10,000 Back up a little bit from the days when we did the country of infirmity. 352 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:14,000 When I get denied something, I do the opposite of getting intimidated. 353 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,000 I get angry. 354 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:22,000 The standoff was reaching a boiling point when some unknown force played havoc with their crew's video and audio gear. 355 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,000 Hold on a second, guys. I got a problem here. 356 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,000 They're after their appearance. 357 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,000 This is more than unclassified. That's f***ing... 358 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,000 Jesse refused to give up, but the fight was futile. 359 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:42,000 I'll tell you, the more I learn about Harp, the more knowledge I gain about it, the more sinister this place seems to be getting. 360 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:48,000 It's not going the other way. It's going that way, towards sinister, not against it. 361 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:57,000 The other thing that bugs me about this, you notice there were double security gates there, not one but two. 362 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,000 And it's out in the middle of nowhere, Alaska. 363 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:04,000 And it's an unclassified research facility. 364 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,000 And it has that type of security, huh? 365 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,000 That's interesting. 366 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:17,000 While the governor, Braverman, announced that he would be the first to enter the Alaskan wilderness, 367 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,000 Governor, Braverman and Alex plan their next move, 368 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:25,000 another member of the team has come up with a major find in another corner of the country. 369 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:32,000 June is in Texas, chasing the intriguing story of Harp's inventor, 370 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,000 a man who became a leading critic of the Harp project. 371 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:42,000 Bernard Eastland died two years ago, but his son Robert is alive and talking. 372 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:57,000 Back in about 1983, my father was working on a number of ideas, including the use of the gas to create a missile shield for the United States in case of Soviet attacks. 373 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:03,000 And so when your father first designed it, it was really in terms of defense, am I right? 374 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:09,000 It was at the height of the Cold War, 1983, 1984, Ronald Reagan in the White House. 375 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:20,000 The project my father was working on was everything from communications with submarines to ground penetrating radar over the horizon radar, 376 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:25,000 knocking out satellite communications, a missile defense shield. 377 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,000 And then there's everyone's favorite, weather control. 378 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:35,000 The idea was by heating up the atmosphere, you could move the jet stream, 379 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:42,000 bringing rain to places or taking rain away from places that were possibly receiving too much rain. 380 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:47,000 Robert says his father never intended for Harp to be used as an offensive weapon. 381 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:53,000 It would have been for good. You have Ethiopia, no rain, let's bring rain to Ethiopia. 382 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:57,000 You have too much rain flooding in one place, it looks, perturb the jet stream, 383 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:01,000 and see if we can halt whatever weather cycles occurring. 384 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,000 So he was very proud of it in the invention. 385 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,000 He was very proud. 386 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:09,000 But then the military saw the potential and bought up the plans. 387 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:15,000 Your father did feel that the military were maybe going too far, which is why he left. 388 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:22,000 Well, I mean, so here he is, he's trying to come up with something to defend the United States and better mankind, 389 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:28,000 and they're saying, well, maybe now we have a weapon, basically a weapon that can be used. 390 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:40,000 Back in Alaska, Jesse Ventura heads into the wilderness to seek out the people who live in Harp's shadow. 391 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,000 First up is the village of Glen Allen. 392 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:54,000 Harp helps fund its community college, but even here, 30 miles away, no one's really sure what goes on at Harp. 393 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,000 Could this be a weapon of some sort? 394 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,000 Well, I've certainly heard some of that as well. 395 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:04,000 Of course, if it's military, it's got military applications. I have no doubt about that. 396 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:08,000 It's funded, it's a big project, it's cost a lot of money. 397 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,000 Do you think they're being totally forthcoming with you? 398 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,000 Meaning the scientists and the people that work up there, I do. 399 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,000 Well, no, not necessarily them. No, I mean... 400 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,000 The military application? 401 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,000 Yeah, the military application and Harp in general. 402 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:26,000 Do you think that they're being fully above board with the locals? 403 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,000 I think that it's a mystery. 404 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:35,000 Jesse moves on toward the village that's Harp's closest neighbor. 405 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:41,000 He's been warned that folks there don't like strangers, so he hired a private eye from Anchorage. 406 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,000 She went on ahead for some advanced recon. 407 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:53,000 The private eye does not want her face seen by anyone connected to Harp. 408 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,000 She says she fears harassment or worse. 409 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,000 Thanks for meeting me here. 410 00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,000 No problem. 411 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,000 What do you got for me? 412 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:04,000 There's definitely some things that are going on there in relation to Harp. 413 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,000 Really? Tell me more. 414 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:10,000 You know, everybody was friendly and everybody was talkative until you brought up the topic of Harp 415 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,000 and then their personality changed, their demeanor changed. 416 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,000 Really? 417 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:21,000 I've gone to villages all over the state of Alaska and never, never has it been this eerie, I guess you could say. 418 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,000 It was an eerie feeling there. 419 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,000 Something we definitely need to look into then. 420 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:32,000 Well, the PI gave us the list, now let's hope people will talk to us. 421 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,000 Private investigators said they would. 422 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:38,000 Yeah, well, that could be a different story once Cam is on it. 423 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:46,000 The governor and his advisor arrive in Gokona, population 215. 424 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:50,000 People willing to talk about Harp? Zero. 425 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,000 We're sure not being very successful, are we? 426 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,000 But persistence pays off. 427 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,000 Okay, I found some people there inside and we'll talk about Harp. 428 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,000 For real? 429 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,000 Yeah. 430 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,000 Handcuff them so they can't get away. 431 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,000 Let's go. 432 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:13,000 Jesse meets the one person who's bound to know everyone's business. 433 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:17,000 She runs the coffee shop and trading post. 434 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,000 Now you've been here since the beginning. 435 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,000 What do you think they're doing down there? 436 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,000 They tell us we're doing research on Harp. 437 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,000 We're up here studying the northern lights. 438 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,000 You know, studying the northern lights for 25 years, come on. 439 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,000 So you're very suspicious of this place? 440 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,000 Oh, of course. 441 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:39,000 I mean, if it was studying the northern lights, they'd be very, very upfront. 442 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:43,000 They'd be telling people all the time what they're doing, what they're finding. 443 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,000 I, as an American, resent being treated. 444 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,000 It's my money that's funding it. 445 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,000 You're damn right, I agree. 446 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,000 And if it's defense, tell us it's for defense. 447 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,000 Now be truthful with us. 448 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,000 Sure. 449 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,000 We're not stupid. 450 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:59,000 We've tried to talk to a lot of the people around here about Harp and they just clam up. 451 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,000 They don't want to talk. 452 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,000 Why do you think that is? 453 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:06,000 Well, I think people live out here because they're real private. 454 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:13,000 And there was that rumor about mind control a few years ago and I think people are real nervous and they don't... 455 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,000 It's a big government entity. 456 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,000 They don't want to cross them. 457 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:23,000 Everyone else in Gakona decides to stay behind closed doors while the strangers are in town. 458 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,000 Everyone but one man. 459 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:31,000 My personal feeling, I think it's one of the most top secret strangers in the United States government. 460 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,000 Really? 461 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,000 Fred has lived in Gakona for more than 40 years. 462 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,000 Harp? 463 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,000 He helped pave the way. 464 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:44,000 So you were here and you've watched this entire whole Harp thing take place? 465 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:48,000 I worked on building the first road, worked on part of the building and I was working on it. 466 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,000 First they were setting up a coal generator. 467 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,000 And I plowed snow up there. 468 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:56,000 I got a snow plumb and I plowed snow, I think, for three or four winters. 469 00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:00,000 When I first started plowing snow, they didn't have any security cameras or nothing. 470 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,000 I'd go up there and I'd be the only guy on the plantation. 471 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:11,000 But then as time went on, I got more security, more security and more stricter and more stricter. 472 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:16,000 Why would they add more security if it was just the simple thing that they initially said they were doing? 473 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:21,000 I've always thought that that facility had the capability of mind control. 474 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,000 Have you ever heard of that mind control that the Russians use under prisoners? 475 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,000 Yeah. 476 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:32,000 They set out a certain frequency to make people act the way they want. 477 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:36,000 They can make them docile or they make them schizophrenic or whatever. 478 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:41,000 That's the mind control that I think they have the capability up there. 479 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,000 Really? Interesting. 480 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:48,000 There used to be a restaurant café over here, a restaurant hotel over here. 481 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:53,000 I was sitting in there one morning having a cup of coffee and there were four guys sitting at a booth over there. 482 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:57,000 I could hear them talking and they were talking about mind control. 483 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:02,000 Three of them got up and left and the fourth guy came over there to get his coffee cup filled up. 484 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:07,000 They said, I'm not eavesdropping but I couldn't help hearing you guys talk about mind control. 485 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:12,000 He sat down there and told me, oh yeah, mind control. I've been in this field for 12 years. 486 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,000 He was out here and spent about a month up at Hart. 487 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:23,000 I think they try to brainwash the people. I don't know if they do it every year but several times they've had these open houses. 488 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:29,000 They let people go up there and they give them a cup of coffee and then they're talking to everybody that goes up and gets a coffee and cookie. 489 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,000 Oh yeah, Hart's okay. I think that's all this is small thing. 490 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:43,000 I'll tell you one other thing that happened. I was just down here at the local bar having a beer one night. 491 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:48,000 I think it was 10 or a dozen electricians come out there and was going to be there for two weeks. 492 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:53,000 That one guy came in and I don't remember his name now but I recognized him and said, hey man, what's going on? 493 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,000 We fired that damn thing up up there and we fried a guy. 494 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,000 What do you mean, what is fried a guy? 495 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,000 I mean they turned the antenna on and the guy was underneath and they killed it. 496 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,000 Still ahead. 497 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:14,000 Jesse meets the man who knows more about Hart than anyone in Alaska. 498 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,000 Dr. Begashite Pazoo. 499 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:20,000 Then he gets sapped with Hart style mind control. 500 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,000 Wow, it seemed like right here. 501 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,000 I'm going to go get him. 502 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:43,000 Well, we're out here in the wilder lands of Alaska. 503 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:50,000 We're going to meet a Dr. Begash who seems to know a great deal about Hart. 504 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,000 He's kind of made it his life's ambition. 505 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:59,000 He has a second career or whatever and this guy is probably the biggest authority on Hart that we're ever going to find. 506 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,000 Let's go talk to Dr. Begash. 507 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,000 Find out what he knows. 508 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,000 Governor Ventura. 509 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,000 Dr. Begashite Pazoo. 510 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,000 Yes indeed, come on in. 511 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,000 Thank you, appreciate it. 512 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:28,000 Dr. Nick Begash is a prominent Alaskan, a well respected author and activist, son of a U.S. Congressman, brother of U.S. Senator Mark Begash. 513 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:32,000 He's been studying and investigating Hart for the past 15 years. 514 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:40,000 Now I'm going to be honest, you know up until about two weeks ago I'd never even heard of Hart when I find it a bit disturbing. 515 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,000 Let's get to the nitty-gritty on this. 516 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:48,000 What type of offensive weapon does Hart have the potential to be? 517 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,000 This is kind of grade eight, what does it do? 518 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,000 Because there's a lot of different things. 519 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:57,000 Not only can they manipulate weather but the idea of knocking aircraft out of the sky and leaving no residual damage. 520 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,000 I mean you could wage wars and nobody would ever know it. 521 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,000 If you crank it high enough, you can burn this. 522 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:07,000 Wait, so you're saying that if they crank this up, they could literally knock airplanes out of the air? 523 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,000 That's correct. 524 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,000 You could also use it to knock out a satellite. 525 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:18,000 Now think about that. You have plausible deniability, the satellite goes down, all your communications go down, your ability to conduct commerce goes down. 526 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,000 These are things that Hart can do. 527 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,000 And we're not alone anymore. 528 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:27,000 Chinese are pursuing this technology, Russians are pursuing this technology, and others are pursuing this technology today. 529 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:35,000 We got possible weather manipulation through the whole world. 530 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,000 Right. 531 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,000 Now could it cause hurricanes and earthquakes? 532 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,000 Well, that's very possible. Many scientists believe this. 533 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:52,000 What you're saying to me, like if we wanted to attack someone, we could actually, with heart, attack them with the weather? 534 00:35:52,000 --> 00:36:01,000 Right. And there's actually a treaty that goes back to 1977 that the US and the Soviets and 60 other countries signed saying we wouldn't use what they called environmental manipulation, 535 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:05,000 which was things like creating tidal waves, earthquake, weather modifications as weapons of war. 536 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:11,000 Then what you're saying to me, point blank, is we quite potentially could be violating the treaty? 537 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:16,000 Well, the rule is you can do whatever you want domestically. That's the way the treaty reads. 538 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:25,000 All that may be dangerous enough, but Nick Beggage says he's most worried about Hart's ability to interfere with your mind. 539 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:30,000 Obviously they deny it, but what we produced was their own documents. 540 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:36,000 You know, these are Air Force, Navy, military documents that actually lay this out. 541 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,000 It's their own words, not our words. 542 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:43,000 You know, doctor, what you're saying to me is scary. 543 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,000 I mean, it's as simple as that. 544 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,000 Yeah, it is. 545 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:55,000 I mean, you're talking about something that can be done with mind control to where you can affect people's minds and they don't even know it. 546 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,000 That's correct. 547 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,000 And this is masses of people. 548 00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,000 Right. 549 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:08,000 They can do it at a level where you could be walking down the street and you could get infiltrated with these sound waves and you wouldn't even know that they were hitting you. 550 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,000 That's right. And there's two different ways. 551 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:18,000 One would be transferring voice information and the other would be just affecting you on an emotional level, which is much simpler, which is easily accomplished by Hart. 552 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:22,000 The human body and the mind is able to pick a signal out. 553 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,000 Like going through the radio station, you're dialing through the station, you get all the static. 554 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:30,000 As soon as you get resonance, harmony between the transmitter and receiver, you get a nice clear signal. 555 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:38,000 The same is true in terms of the human chemistry, in terms of our chemistry, our cell structure, body organs, or the brain. 556 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:46,000 Jesse Ventura has his doubts that the harp antennas can broadcast radio waves that influence people's thoughts. 557 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,000 But Nick Vagage is prepared for the skeptics. 558 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:59,000 Now this is a device that Friends of Mine in Germany designed and we had demonstrated in the European Parliament an open hearing, a cruder version, but it made our point. 559 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:13,000 This is a standard CD player and what these are is piezoelectric transducers and in simple language, they carry a signal that can enter the nervous system so that you can get that proverbial voice in the head. 560 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:24,000 And so by activating this, placing these electrodes on the surface of the skin, blocking the ears tightly, you'll hear the music just as if your ears were playing it, but the ears have nothing to do with it. 561 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:28,000 The eighth cranial nerve, the part that connects to the brain, has nothing to do with it. 562 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,000 Is that working right now? 563 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,000 Yeah, we can get it cranked up here. 564 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,000 Crank it up, I want to try it. 565 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:40,000 So in other words, I can touch this to my neck and hear it without my ears hearing it and no one else in the room will hear it. 566 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,000 That is correct. 567 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,000 I want you to block your ears really tightly so you can't hear it. 568 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:53,000 Still ahead, Harp invades Jesse Ventura's brain. The incredible conclusion. 569 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,000 Wow. 570 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,000 Wow. 571 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,000 I want you to block your ears really tightly so you can't hear it. 572 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:28,000 Jesse Ventura was skeptical about claims that the Harp antennas in remote Alaska have the power to control people's minds, including yours and his. 573 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:35,000 Now, Dr. Nick Beggage is showing him how the Harp transmitter can send a signal directly to his brain. 574 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,000 Wow. 575 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,000 So what did you hear? 576 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:46,000 Well, I heard music, but it's strange because I listened to try to figure out where the music was coming from and it seemed like right here. 577 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:51,000 It sounded like I was hearing it almost through the top of my head or my forehead. 578 00:39:55,000 --> 00:40:05,000 With Harp, when you start to look at this signal, not just transferring sound information, but just to affect the brain with emotional state changes, is so easily accomplished. 579 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,000 So we got mind control? 580 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:21,000 Absolutely. In fact, if you go back historically, back to the 1960s when all of this work really started, the idea of mind control experiments, one of the guys that the New York Times reported was one of those experimental subjects was a unabomber. 581 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:31,000 If you remember, he attacked people who were involved in technology when I was at the result of the experiment because the U.S. military admits over 8,000 servicemen alone were used in these experiments. 582 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:42,000 This technology wrote to be simple. You can get the components off the shelf. You just have to have the technical knowledge to understand how to dial it in. 583 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:51,000 Just like dialing in that radio station we were talking about, in between it's static, but when you get resonance between that transmitter and receiver, things start to happen. 584 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:56,000 And in the earth, things start to happen. Where you already have something unstable, you can trigger that earthquake. 585 00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:02,000 Terrorists possess technology, so it could create earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, modify weather. 586 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,000 Terrorists? 587 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:13,000 Terrorists. It's not just about weather modification. These guys can knock aircraft out of the sky, they can disable satellites, knock them literally into neutral where they can't even work. 588 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:25,000 This is the kind of thing that you can wage war without even knowing the war has been waged. Covert war is not something that's new to this country, but with this technological twist it throws a whole new flavor on all of us. 589 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:30,000 So in layman's terms you're almost talking about an invisible death ray? 590 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:38,000 Actually the guy who originated the death ray concept was a guy named Nikola Tesla. He's a guy that developed an AC current that runs all of our households today. 591 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:49,000 But he had a concept on the death ray that was presented to the government just before World War II. Those papers are cited in Bernard Eastland's patents. This is the death ray. 592 00:41:49,000 --> 00:42:08,000 Jesse Ventura and his team head home from Alaska. The things they saw, the people they met, the information they gathered, leave them convinced that harp is much more than the government would have us believe. 593 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:32,000 I went into this investigation knowing full well that our military keeps secrets, but in the case of harp they're playing with fire. It's one thing to build a missile defense system. It's another to interfere with nature. 594 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:46,000 We saw how easy it is to move clouds around, to trigger storms, floods, eco-terrorism, and I learned that radio waves really can get inside your head. They got inside mine. 595 00:42:46,000 --> 00:43:00,000 Bottom line, I went up to the gates of the harp facility and they wouldn't let me in. An operation that's run by the Navy doesn't shut out a former Navy SEAL unless they've got something to hide. 596 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:04,000 I'm Jesse Ventura. This is Conspiracy Theory.